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I Learned To Drive Like The World’s Toughest Special Agents At The Craziest Track I’ve Ever Seen

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Earlier this year I got an exclusive invite to experience something few civilians ever do: a chance to train like a special agent at a facility where you usually need security clearance to see. For a professional race car driver and enthusiast, it’s a dreamland, full of cars from around the world and seemingly endless miles of pristine race track without a marshall or official in sight. But what’s a dream for me, actually exists to train diplomats and agents for every possible nightmare scenario.

When I was a kid, like many young boys, I dressed up as an Army man – infatuated by the idea of heroic feats of battle and representing the country I pledged allegiance to each morning before class. Looking back, it’s a bit odd to want to be in the Army because, as you grow up, you realize the seriousness of it all. Politics aside, by its very nature war is humans killing other humans. 

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As I got older – as recently as last week – I realized I’d rather be more like James Bond. 

But even with that, like many, I still love a good war film or show, and I’ve always wondered what it would be like to undergo the training of a Navy SEAL, fighter pilot, or secret agent without having to actually be a Navy SEAL, fighter pilot, or secret agent. I’ve realized I’m not cut out for such a thing, given that I get flustered in the middle seat of a plane and have a low tolerance for being shot at.

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DSS training in Karachi, Pakistan. (U.S. Department of State photo)

This is why I have immense respect and admiration for everyone in the armed forces. In my line of work, I meet many of them, and I make it a point to always say, “Thank you for your service.” I often can’t help but think about how they bravely put themselves in harm’s way by choice and how close their mothers or fathers are to potentially getting that terrible call.

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Being a million times less brave, I’ve often wondered what it would be like just to do their training. Is that part fun? Well, two months ago, I got a text from Matt Hardigree. We don’t do much small talk. When he texts me, something is up. This text was just a picture of a Google Maps shot of what looked to be one of the largest and most insane racetracks I have ever seen. I quickly responded, “I have no idea what this is, but I am in.”

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Every inch of this massive area, all the tracks, are all part of FASTC. Video: Google Maps

Little did I know this was no racetrack but a training facility for a special government agency that needs this track-like facility because they are probably the most elite and experienced drivers in all of America’s security apparatus. They are the Diplomatic Security Service or DSS for short – much like the Secret Service but with one big difference: They are constantly in hostile territory. 

Armored Vehicles

Their missions also primarily require them to drive in civilian areas and, at a moment’s notice, be ready to become Max Verstappen or Kyle Busch, but at the helm of a very heavy armored suburban, Land Rover, Land Cruiser, or any of the numerous vehicles used by our diplomats abroad (more on that later).

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One of FASTC’s many simulated environments.

The best bodyguards in the world need the best training facility, and so they go to a remote corner of Virginia called the Foreign Affairs Security Training Center, or FASTC. There are 19 miles of race tracks and roads, a full cloverleaf overpass, acres of unimproved roads, broken bridges. Fake downtowns.

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Think of it like a racing school for James Bond.

I couldn’t wait to fulfill a dream.

The Only Driving School With Guns

Above is the video of what happened, which you can also watch here. Please watch it!

If you were a normal student, you would start in the classroom with a whiteboard that has a ginormous visual of the track. But being in the media and for the sake of time, I assured them with my racing background, I knew exactly what I was getting into. A couple of instructors were NASCAR fans and knew of my latest racing crashes – I had street cred. So we jumped directly into the driving!

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As you will see in the video we filmed, the training starts like a mix of police academy and racing school drills. My instructor would be the top dog when it comes to DSS driving instructors – Mark Perkins. He was a spitting image of Alec Baldwin, so much so that I looked up where Alec Baldwin was during our time there. He has a racing background and competed in Autocross for years. He got this job when, by chance, an armed forces group was using Summit Point Raceway for a training exercise when he was there. He volunteered to help, and the next thing he knew, this was his full-time occupation.

Dss Mark Perkins

He also owns a manual E39 530i like Matt’s, but in way better condition and in wagon form, so he’s one of us! He fits the type you’d expect from a government racing instructor – very serious, very clean-cut but with a hint of boyish excitement that his job is to play with cars all day.

The vehicle we used at the start of training was a Dodge Charger that had the ABS ripped out and rear seats lowered (to fit people with helmets). You start with light slalom drills, braking drills, and eventually work your way to a skid pad and then a wet braking zone.

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All of this is to get your “eyes up” and look ahead, anticipating things just like us racecar drivers do. We are never looking at where the car is going; we are always looking at where we want the car to go. I found these drills easy-peasy… Well, except for the drifting, as you’ll see. I blamed the clunky boots I was wearing.

How To Hit Another Car Without Destroying Your Car

Crashing Cars

From there, we were able to get into ramming exercises, which means you learn how to hit other stationary cars doing the least amount of damage to your car. Up to this point, most of the training I went through is also given to diplomats as well (Matt will write more on this later). Not only do diplomats and their staff sometimes drive in places like Lebanon, Port-au-Prince, and Lagos, they also might find themselves in a situation where their protective detail has been disabled and they might have to suddenly take over the controls.

While it might be obvious to one of us that the lightest part of a car is its rear and the strongest part of your car is the frame rail, thus to hit another car you ideally want to ram the trunk of their car with the front left frame rail of your car, try telling that to an expert on grain subsidies that grew up in Brooklyn and didn’t get a license until they were 26. Thus, diplomats get to practice ramming through roadblocks as well.

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Another instructor stands in front of the car you’re about to ram and signals you like a matador. Then you floor it, and he jumps out of the way just in time. How this is allowed is beyond me, but then again, this is training for something far more dangerous. This knowledge could be necessary as you’re trying to escape a crowded city street with cars in your way while being shot at.

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This is something you will hear in the video and I want to make very clear, because I had a great time doing this but it’s deadly serious. With any security training, you need to remember to take everything you’re doing but then make it life or death. There are constant reminders of this from the instructors and when you’re near the coffee pot that features a lovely US government flier to the right of it explaining security measures for the building. Since 1943, more than 100 diplomatic security staff and four DSS agents have been killed in the line of duty.

Just last year, a convoy of DSS agents and other staff were attacked in Sudan.

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A PIT Manuevuer Is Just About As Fun As You Think It Is

Pit Maneuver

In between your eighth and ninth coffee next to the government flier, you will eventually be ready for the Pit-Maneuver, which means spinning another car out or being spun out. Thankfully, from NASCAR, I had a lot of experience with this. But the other instructor we were up against looked like a twin to Dennis Quaid, so much so that I looked up where Dennis Quaid was during our time there.

The joke became that Alec Baldwin and Dennis Quaid do this for fun and act for a “job.” Nonetheless, it added to my feeling that this was a surreal movie-like experience.

 

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The Virginia State Police train at a facility nearby and one of the interesting differences between how a police officer trains for it and a DSS agent trains for it is that the DSS agents spend a lot of time learning how to counter-pit. Think about it this way. A convoy in Sierra Leone might be two vehicles and, if attacked, the bad guys might attempt to use a car to spit one of the security vehicles out of the way. As you’ll see in the video, the agent in the other car manages to get back going quickly after I pit him. Not shown is Matt flicking me off.

As we went around spinning out the car ahead of us and then being the car spun, I couldn’t help but get serious about how to try and do it better. Even when I’m trying to train for something different, there’s the competitive racecar driver in me. I was able to convince the crew to let me practice some J-turns (see the video) before it was time to take a break and get ready to combine all my training in an actual armored vehicle.

How To Protect Even The Most Annoying Diplomat

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Mark, Parker, and United States Ambassador to the Republic of Estonia Matt “Big Bird” Hardigree

Typically, the training we were doing may take a couple of weeks, but we condensed it into one long day so I could attempt a real in-the-heart-of-a-foreign-city mission. This mission would be a simulated convoy scenario in a fully armored Suburban where I would be driving the car with the Ambassador of Estonia inside, who we dubbed “Big Bird,” also known as Autopian Publisher Matt Hardigree.

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Why would someone want to attack Big Bird? Matt’s a chatty guy, so any secrets he has you can probably get out of him with a bottle of Saku and 30 minutes of silence.

We would be the lead car in the convoy, but when a car full of bad guys and guns pulls out and blocks the road, we must employ all of our many days (or, well, hours) of training. This starts with maximum braking while making sure the Suburban in the rear doesn’t ram into us. Then, assessing the situation, we have to get our car into reverse and change lanes to overtake the Suburban behind us, as they will then protect our car by becoming the “bullet sponge.”

Annoying Diplomat

Oh, and be full throttle in reverse. This means you’re doing about 30+ MPH in a suburban that weighs closer to an oil tanker than the one parked next to you at the grocery store. Once at full terminal velocity and far enough out of harm’s way, we do a quick synchronized turn-about and then drop into forward gear where we plant the throttle again to reassume the lead position of the convoy in the opposite direction.

It may seem pretty subdued, but there’s a lot of overcoming natural tendencies that makes it a bit awkward. The most challenging part is how damn heavy the thing is. First, it’s impressive how well it stops from doing 50 MPH for its weight, but when you start reversing and get to terminal velocity, the weight begins to act against you in a big way. Any movement of the wheel can set the beast into a swaying pendulum effect that quickly can spiral out of control.

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Chief Instructor Mark Perkins helping me keep the Suburban upright.

In the video, you will see my instructor Mark Perkins put his hand on the wheel as he starts to feel this. I got better at it by the final attempt, but the early ones were quite concerning. I think if I were really trying to be a DSS agent, they would make me spend a few days driving tracks in reverse. Surprisingly, I should have been good at it with all my backward finishes last year.

I will admit that I was surprised by the amount of mental energy it took to drive the Suburban straight at full throttle in reverse. When we talked about this scenario from the outside it seemed so simple. It’s the little things that are less about performance driving and more about the procedure of keeping a human safe that start to weigh on you. This was a simulated drill in an armored vehicle with an exterior roll cage, and yet I could have easily rolled the vehicle and hurt the people inside.

I believe I passed because my protectee lived, but I clearly wasn’t ready for the real thing.

The Strangest Car Lot In America

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LHD cars, RHD cars, they’re even getting a Lada for… reasons.

One crazy thing for us car-mad people was the car lot, with over 700 cars ranging  from Dodge Chargers to endless suburbans from the last 30 years, armored and unarmored. Along with specials like manual Land Cruisers with armor that you could barely fit in them because the armor condensed the interior by many inches all around you. Right-hand driver manual Land Rovers and others were all there to represent the type of car a DSS agent may come across in the different parts of the world.

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They don’t mess around; if it’s prevalent enough out there, they will have it at this facility for agents to train, spin, crash, and hot-wire. I asked about that last bit, and amazingly they told me that, yes, they do train agents in extreme emergency situations to “borrow” cars without keys, though somehow they did it in that government way of never actually saying yes.

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Supervisory Special Agent Benjamin Rathsack, not a small man, describes getting out of some vehicles in armor as “popping a can of biscuits.” (U.S. Department of State photo)

When you hang around government people enough, you realize they all have this incredible ability to say a lot without ever saying anything – especially when it’s sensitive material. I think this was called an “improvised extraction technique.”

But they were kind enough to let us mess around with the Land Cruiser, the Land Rover, and this massive brand-new expected replacement for the Humvee that has been experiencing some technical issues.

Jltv Parker

It’s called the Joint Light Tactical Vehicle or JLTV for short. They love an acronym in the government. It’s incredibly high-tech, from the wild variance in its ride height to features like becoming a safety cell in the event of an attack. I got to sit in it, and we asked lots of questions of which I’m not sure how many were really answered. Maybe Matt remembers more, but the verdict was that it’s a cool vehicle but has left some room to be desired. It was said sometimes the mechanical simplicity, and less Silicon Valley tech of the Humvee was best.

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I think we can all agree with that in many areas of our lives!

Would You Want A NASCAR Driver To Be On Your Protective Detail?

Dss Drivers
A convoy of DSS agents. (U.S. Department of State photo)

We only got to scratch the surface of this immense facility, and all the DSS does, but I did feel like I understood what to expect if we had the available time to be there for weeks. 

On the drive home that night after our training, very tired from what was an incredibly packed day, I did get a bit philosophical, as I couldn’t help but feel a sense of pride. 

Over the course of the day, I had met some incredibly dedicated, talented, and enjoyable people who were at the forefront of creating the best drivers outside of motorsports, all in the name of keeping our fellow citizens safe. As a guy who has made a living driving professionally in circles for people’s drunken entertainment, it was a beautiful site seeing professional driving being utilized for something far more important.

Was it fun? Definitely, at times when you let the seriousness of what they’re training for escape your mind. But most of all, I left with an even more profound respect for everyone who signs up to represent this country in a security capacity. They are all way cooler than I’ll ever be, so I’m glad that some of their training is fun, they deserve that.

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BigThingsComin
BigThingsComin
1 month ago

Why did the poor Volvo need to suffer?

69Camaro5.3
69Camaro5.3
1 month ago

Great article and worth the read… Spent time as a DS special agent and happy to see my profession collide with racing. Thanks to Parker for making it happen.

Col Lingus
Col Lingus
1 month ago

Ironically it’s easier for me to drive when someone is shooting at me. Becomes a motivating factor at the time. And takes my OCD attention off the idiots with their cell phones reading texts at 75mph with a SUV full of rug rats.

Thanks Parker.

Happy Walters
Happy Walters
1 month ago

Super, super story, but 5 point deduction for not call it “the Rockford.”

Brad Cowell
Brad Cowell
1 month ago

Sometime around 2006/2007 I was in the interview pipeline to become a DSS agent. After multiple tests and about 3 or 4 interviews, I was scheduled for my final interview, where at the end I would be told if I was hired or not. They had already warned me my posting for the first year would be in Baghdad, and this was at the height of the insurgency. After that, it would most likely be a consulate in some 3rd world country, and my family wouldn’t be able to go with me. The most intriguing part of the job to me was the level of autonomy they give DSS agents. In a lot of the locations, there are only 1 or 2, so you have to be quick and confidant in your decision making.

I cancelled my interview, as I didn’t want to be separated from my wife for 3 years. The job would have been pretty cool, and I knew if I went and they offered it to me, I wouldn’t turn it down. But I think I made the right choice

69Camaro5.3
69Camaro5.3
1 month ago
Reply to  Brad Cowell

Why are you posting if you decided not to pursue the job?

David Smith
David Smith
1 month ago
Reply to  69Camaro5.3

Why not?

Brad Cowell
Brad Cowell
1 month ago
Reply to  David Smith

Sounds crazy, but didn’t like the idea of being apart from my wife for 3 years.

Space
Space
1 month ago

We’re these the mythical suburban 2500’s that GM won’t sell to regular people?

Jon Benet
Jon Benet
1 month ago

Killer Production Value

Phantom Pedal Syndrome
Phantom Pedal Syndrome
1 month ago

Doesn’t everyone practice this type of driving as a teenager?
That’s what shitboxes are for right.
I mean… you just gotta get that junker running one last time before it goes to the wrecking yard. (A Pontiac 6000 perhaps)
Even better if an equally idiotic friend also has something junkyard bound. (A Chevy Celebrity if memory serves me)

Pit maneuvers are fun.
That looks like a dream job.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
1 month ago

This is why I have immense respect and admiration for everyone in the armed forces. In my line of work, I meet many of them, and I make it a point to always say, “Thank you for your service.” I often can’t help but think about how they bravely put themselves in harm’s way by choice and how close their mothers or fathers are to potentially getting that terrible call.

I was having a conversation with a veteran friend of mine who was on a rant about how much he HATES it when most people thank him for his service. He had a point. Most people who do so have no clue what people in service go through nor would they in a million years ever put themselves through it. To him it comes across as insincere. My friend had no choice, he had been drafted for Vietnam.

What he said he other vets DO want to hear is a hearty and heartfelt “welcome home”. That’s something he and his buddies didn’t get when they came home from Vietnam. Quite the opposite.

As he was telling me all this a woman came up to us and asked if she had heard him say he was a veteran. He politely replied yes. She then gave him the most knee jerk, insincere (and nasally) thanks for his service I think I have ever heard. I bit my tongue and took a step back from what I expected to be a PTSD fueled rage explosion. Nope. He just accepted it graciously and as she walked away gave me a hard eyeroll. He then told me that was his VA training kicking in. Which I was grateful for myself.

So now when I meet a veteran I make a point of welcoming them home and – if time permits – ask them about their service. Most are very happy to share. They also have stories that are way better than books.

Ron888
Ron888
1 month ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

Interesting.I was wondering this very thing

DadBod
DadBod
1 month ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

That paragraph was cringe, all the vets I know are the same way.

Happy Walters
Happy Walters
1 month ago
Reply to  DadBod

It’s mostly annoying, and it’s mostly the pro forma “Thank. You. For. Your. Service.”

Just be a person and say something like “Hey, thanks for that. Did you enjoy it/I hope it was rewarding/That sounds challenging/ Where did you serve/What was your job?” Even a big smile and a joking “Whoosh, you all are just built different, aren’t you?”

If you have problems with the foreign policy of the United States maybe just “I’m glad you’re safe.” You can mean that, can’t you?

See also: Auto commercials that spending 20% of their run time showing flags waving. The Jeep Grand Wagoneer commercial about the correct orientation of the flag brought me close to madness. “Brands” that sell things based on my friends doing very difficult things in very difficult places go on my “Do not buy” list immediately.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmriVme9SkA

P.S. Orientation: When you make the flag vertical you don’t just rotate it, you need to flip it so that the blue field is still on the left. Fun Fact.

Last edited 1 month ago by Happy Walters
DadBod
DadBod
1 month ago
Reply to  Happy Walters

Thanks for saying this. I used to live outside Savannah and it was always fun to talk up a Ranger. Watching those dudes jump out of Blackhawks into the ocean made me question my life choices.
Don’t get me started on flag-all-the-things

Happy Walters
Happy Walters
1 month ago
Reply to  DadBod

Ahem: “Rangers Lead The way!”

Happy Walters
Happy Walters
1 month ago
Reply to  Happy Walters

Late edit. Upon my reflection, I didn’t mean my sample ““Whoosh, you all are just built different, aren’t you?”” to sound braggy. It’s very cool if you don’t feel that way. I just meant, whatever you say, “Say something like an actual person in conversation, and don’t repeat a standard phrase solely because somehow you think you’re somehow supposed to.” Cheers!

Marc Fuhrman
Marc Fuhrman
1 month ago

An excellent video, this looks like it was an amazing experience.

Ward William
Ward William
1 month ago

The only guy I want to do this type of training with is the South African guy, Leo Prinsloo who hit the media airwaves a couple of years ago driving the absolute living crap out of that armored car while being shot at with multiple automatic weapons. If he can’t teach me what I need to know, I don’t need to know it. He also runs a school like this one here.

Strangek
Strangek
1 month ago

Dude! That is so cool! Great work on the video you guys!

3WiperB
3WiperB
1 month ago

Great video! What an awesome experience that must have been.

Mr Sarcastic
Mr Sarcastic
1 month ago

I’d rather do the ice racing training. More useful and better training.

Cerberus
Cerberus
1 month ago

Awesome! This was a career I considered in my early 20s, especially as PTSD left me more comfortable and calm in dangerous situations than in regular life where I am readily annoyed. Most of my practicing was done in a midsize car (with a manual). I’m sure it’s a lot more challenging in something as large, ungainly, and lacking in visibility as an armored Suburban! I would love to take a class like this and get to perform the ramming exercises, plus my skills are degraded as it’s been about 20 years.

Morgan van Humbeck
Morgan van Humbeck
1 month ago
Reply to  Cerberus

Ugh. PTSD makes you perpetually stressed and then zen calm when your life is threatened. It’s great to be able to be the guy who diffuses nasty situations, but most of life doesn’t require that skill

Cerberus
Cerberus
1 month ago

I didn’t realize how much weight of stress I lived with ordinarily until I finally got through about 4 years of therapy (some rough going in there, but the toughest part is finding a good therapist that’s not just a drug-dispensing, bearded Freud-lover doodling on a clipboard and reflexively asking, “And how did that make you feel?” “Same as always, doc—like taking them on a boat ride to give them the USS Indianapolis experience”).

Morgan van Humbeck
Morgan van Humbeck
1 month ago
Reply to  Cerberus

Fully. If all you know is perpetually being on the edge, you don’t have a frame of reference and you just imagine that’s how life is for everyone. A good therapist is a godsend. May your journey only get better

Col Lingus
Col Lingus
1 month ago

That is the enigma of PTSD. It’s a bitch Catch 22 to live with. As time passes I am deeply thankful for the ability to stay calm while the rest of the world is burning down. I actually prefer this.

Morgan van Humbeck
Morgan van Humbeck
1 month ago
Reply to  Col Lingus

Interesting. We have different experiences of it. My house literally did burn down, and I was totally calm and just did all the things that needed to be done. Barely impacted my heart rate. But the nebulous burning of the whole world messes me up if I go on social media

Cerberus
Cerberus
1 month ago

With how I can flip out on stuff that’s so minor and stupid that I have no control over, I am always amazed at how calm and focused I am when SHTF—like my mind gets smugly self-aware in the background in the moment.

Morgan van Humbeck
Morgan van Humbeck
1 month ago
Reply to  Cerberus

Totally. I genuinely feel like a Buddha when a big group threatens me. I smile wide, walk up to the biggest guy, keep my hands down, and just start talking to him. Nobody knows what to do with a guy who’s totally alone and not the least bit worried

Cerberus
Cerberus
1 month ago

If someone is threatening me, that’s how I get—calm and humorous. Worked especially well with would-be bullies when I was younger and turning them into friends (not the coward kind that instigate you to hit them so they can tell on you, but the ones who really wanted to throw down). However, when someone threatens people I care about, it was a far more intense, quiet rage. When I got like that, it took all I had to control it and, judging by everyone else’s reactions to defuse the situations in those times, it was obvious to them as well. I lived in fear of myself having those moments. Thankfully, everyone else seemed to have more control than I did at those times and therapy put an end to it. Some of it was making peace with that side of me rather than thinking of it as a separate demon that I had to hold in a cage. In that regard, Orthrus would have been a better pick than Cerberus as a name, but almost nobody knows Cerberus’ 2-headed brother.

Morgan van Humbeck
Morgan van Humbeck
1 month ago
Reply to  Cerberus

Oh man, making friends with all aspects of yourself is so important. Hating any part of yourself is bound to lead to disaster and woe

Cerberus
Cerberus
1 month ago
Reply to  Col Lingus

I was honestly a little resistant to therapy once I finally accepted what I had because I was worried I’d lose that ability to remain calm or even be excited by the kind of events normal people rightfully see as frightening in case something happened to or someone threatened the few people left that I care about and I needed to be that selective psychopath, but that hasn’t happened. I’m still me 9for better or worse), but more in control. Pretty much everyone commented on how much less scary I was after the therapy, but I feel like me, just more calm and not under constant stress. Funny thing is that I got migraines after, which I hadn’t had since I was a little kid. One thing they say can cause them is changes in stress levels, so I suspect being in a constant state of stress with PTSD actually kept them away. Not saying I’d rather go back, just a thought/observation of a possible side effect that I find amusing—like appreciating the universe’s twisted sense of humor.

Morgan van Humbeck
Morgan van Humbeck
1 month ago
Reply to  Cerberus

Interesting. Have the headaches slowed down as your body had gotten used to a more chill state of being?

Cerberus
Cerberus
1 month ago

They go up and down. I try different remedies, they work for a while to reduce frequency and intensity for a year or so, and then they stop working. Doesn’t seem to be definite triggers besides alcohol, too much sun, too much of being around a lot of people, and too many desserts. Keeps me healthier, I guess.

Morgan van Humbeck
Morgan van Humbeck
1 month ago
Reply to  Cerberus

No kidding lol. Have you heard of psychedelics stopping migraines?

Cerberus
Cerberus
1 month ago

There’s not a lot of definitive data from what I’ve read and I’m highly hesitant to taking any kinds of drugs, so I’d wait until there was something solid. (They also are using them for PTSD, though there seems to be more studies on it. I’m highly suspicious of such things, but if it truly does work, unlike the pharmaceuticals that just cover the symptoms and kick the can on the solution, then I think it’s great as not everyone can afford the long term therapy or find a good therapist.) Most drugs for migraines are of only limited efficacy for a small majority of users and ineffective for the rest, so I don’t hold much positivity for anything.

Morgan van Humbeck
Morgan van Humbeck
1 month ago
Reply to  Cerberus

A dear friend of mine carries around a tiny amount of LSD for her cluster headaches. Not enough to get high. Just enough to manage the headaches. I definitely don’t suggest doing anything you don’t feel good about, but I’ve also witnessed people experience almost instant relief without having to dose themselves into another dimension. Ymmv, though, as they say

Icouldntfindaclevername
Icouldntfindaclevername
1 month ago

Really good video on this. Hat tip!!

Der Foo
Der Foo
1 month ago

Can the JLTV do a J-turn or is that classified material?

Totally not a robot
Totally not a robot
1 month ago
Reply to  Der Foo

“J-Like Turning Vehicle.” It’s right there in the name!

VeeArrrSix
VeeArrrSix
1 month ago

It’s like EVOC but without all the amberlamps drivers that smell like peepee.

StillNotATony
StillNotATony
1 month ago

All I have to say is can we get a group rate for an Autopian get together?

MATTinMKE
MATTinMKE
1 month ago
Reply to  StillNotATony

This. So, so much this.

Strangek
Strangek
1 month ago
Reply to  MATTinMKE

Pretty sure Road America has a performance driving program!

MATTinMKE
MATTinMKE
1 month ago
Reply to  Strangek

I believe you’re correct!

Spartanjohn113
Spartanjohn113
1 month ago
Reply to  StillNotATony

I would be down for doing a group rate at a performance driving school. I’ve always wanted to go to one but the prices are a bit steep.

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